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  • Name  GUINN Elias Henderson 
    Born  Apr 1827  Tennessee Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender  Male 
    _UID  A8B07B9D8758CE4B927835DE7C3EA29E7F46 
    Died  1904  Fackler, Jackson County, AL Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Buried  Roach Cemetery, Jackson, AL Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID  I396  Ancestors of Catherine Yvonne King | The Ancestors and Descendants of Johan Jakob Brown/Braun the "Waggonmaker".
    Last Modified  17 Aug 2006 

    Family 1  SCOTT *Celia Ann" Milly",   b. 27 Apr 1837, Marshall County,Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 22 Dec 1864, Jackson County, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. GUINN John A. " Johnny ",   b. 18 Mar 1841, Stevenson, Jackson, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 22 Nov 1901, Stevenson, Jackson, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location
     2. GUINN Amanda,   b. Abt 1849, Stevenson, Jackson, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location
    >3. GUINN *James W.,   b. 5 Jan 1850, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 5 Oct 1933, Stevenson, Jackson, AL Find all individuals with events at this location
     4. GUINN Celia,   b. Abt 1852, Stevenson, Jackson, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location
     5. GUINN Elisha,   b. Abt 1854, Stevenson, Jackson, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location
     6. GUINN George,   b. Abt 1857
    Last Modified  17 Aug 2006 
    Family ID  F155  Group Sheet

    Family 2  BURCH(BIRCH) Sophia Wilbanks,   b. 1835 
    Married  19 Jul 1866  Jackson County, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Notes 
    • Jackson County, Alabama Marriages 1851-1856 and Book A, 1851-1871 ( G-I Surnames )
      Page # 391, Line # 557
    Children 
     1. GUINN Josephine Ellen Lee,   b. 22 Apr 1867, Fackler, Jackson, AL Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1913
     2. GUINN Sophia Emmaline " Emmie",   b. 1868, Fackler, Jackson, AL Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1948
     3. GUINN Minerva,   b. 1871
     4. GUINN Elias Putnam "Putt ",   b. 1874, Fackler, Jackson, AL Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1938, Manila County, Arkansas Find all individuals with events at this location
     5. GUINN Robert Lee,   b. 30 Sep 1875, Fackler, Jackson, AL Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 4 Jul 1904
     6. GUINN Albert C.,   b. 24 Jul 1878, Fackler, Jackson, AL Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 24 Apr 1920, Jackson County, Alabama Find all individuals with events at this location
    Family ID  F231  Group Sheet

  • Notes 

    • 1/28/04: Researching Elias confirmed birth date and place and Stevenson, Jackson location of Grave

      Ancestry. com
      Elias Gwinn( Guinn )
      Company H, 55th Alabama Volunteers.
      Rank: Induction Private
      Discharge: Private
      Confederate
      Order Confederate Pension Application and muster for Elias ( Elious ) Guinn 19 May 2004
      ______________________________________________________________________________

      " Elious H. Guinn ( 1821-1904 )
      Confederate Soldier
      Roach Cemetery, Jackson County, AL " Roach's Cove Church on Rd. # 55. Scottsboro
      ______________________________________________________________________________
      Referred to as Parson: Baptist Minister
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      1850 United States Federal Census, Jackson Co., AL ; District # 19, Page # 34, Enumeration Date: 12/12/1850; Call Number M432_7.

      490/490 Henderson, Guinn 22 M Farmer TN
      Milly (Celia ) 23 F TN
      John 3 M AL
      Manda 1 F AL
      491/491 SCOTT, John 60 M Farmer Maryland
      Alia 60 F NC
      Elizabeth 26 F NC
      Manda 21 F NC
      Adam 17 M Farmer AL
      James 16 M " AL
      William 13 M AL
      Thomas 10 M AL
      492/492 GUINN, William 30 M Blacksmith TN
      Caraline 19 F TN
      Elizabeth 4 F AL
      Arik 3/12 M AL
      493/493 GUINN, Elisha 28 M Farmer TN
      Nancy 21 F TN
      Sarah 4 F TN
      William 1 M AL
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      1860 US Federal Census, Townhip 2, Range 7 East, Page # 559; Alabama Database for Jackson Co.

      GWYN, Elias
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      Multiple spellings: GUINN, GWYN, GUIN, GWIN
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      Note posted on Roots Web: 21 September 1999: by Margaret Guinn @ mgguinn@infoave.net
      ( attempted email-returned )
      Looking for children of Champion GWINN and Darcus Williams m Washington Co., TN in 1787.
      Also looking for information to link Elisha GUINN m Nancy C. Franklin ( Dec 28,1846) and Champion
      GUINN, Jr. married Rebecca Jackson ( October 16, 1841 ) in Franklin Co., TN. It is believed these two
      men were the sons of the elder Champion GWINN. Also need info for Champion GUINN m Nancy
      Dunlap ( 2nd wife )? somewhere in TN ca 1855-57, then moved to St. Claire Co., MO Any information
      is appreciated and I will gladly share.
      _______________________________________________________________________________
      From the Heritage of Jackson County, Alabama ( Department of Archives & History )
      Ref # 976.195 ( H 548 ) No page # reference. ** Obtain copy for clarification

      Elias Hederson Guinn
      Elias Henderson Guinn was born in Tennessee, April, 1827, married Celia Melissa " Milly " who is said to have been a full blooded Cherokee Indian, sometime in 1845-46. They came to Alabama befor their six children: John, Amanda, Celia, James William " Bill ", Elisha, and George were born. According to the Jackson County Census they lived in the Big Coon-Rash area.
      He enlisted in the CSA, November 11, 1861, at Camp Cheatham, Springfield, TN leaving his wife and six children. He enlisted for one year with Co. F, 42nd Regiment, TN Infantry. His Reg't was captured at Fort Donelson, was held at Camp Douglas, was held at Camp Douglas, Chicago, Illinois and was sent to Vicksburg, Ms to be exchanged on September 4, 1862. When the Company was reorganized, it became the 55th Alabama Volunteers, which fought at the bloody Battle of Peachtree Creek in Georgia. He was in Co. H, Snodgrass Reg't.

      March 1-June 30, 1863, he was in the hospital at Lauderdale Mississippi. August 1, 1863, he had spent so much
      time in the hospital that he was employed as a nurse at the French's Division Hospital in Enterprise, Mississippi. August 31,1863, he was again a patient in Enterprise, Mississippi.

      December 22, 1864, he deserted because he had a family. This is probably about the time that his wife died or when he found out she had died since no record has been found of her since 1860.

      On January 6, 1865, his name appears as signature to an Oath of Allegiance to the United States at Nashville, TN listed place of residence is Jackson County, Alabama. His vital statistics were: fair complexion, brown hair, hazel eyes, 5'10",
      tall and he signed with his mark (X).

      July 19,1866, he married Sophia Wilbanks Burch in Jackson County, and they had six more children: Josie, Sophia,
      Elias, Robert Lee, Albert, Minerva. Sophia had four children from her first marriage: Thomas, Benjamin, Marcus
      and William Yancy Burch.

      July 29, 1889, he applied for relief for blind soldiers. His application stated he was a resident of Alabama on February
      28,1889 had no taxable property of unencumbered value of $ 1,000 and no gross income or salary over $ 1,000 yearly.
      He had contracted a disease in service causing one eye to burs out with neuralgia nad the other one gradually went out until he couldn't tell black from white.

      He died sometime after 1900. His tombstone which was put up some years after his death is dated 1904. Mrs. Annie Coleman Proctor's Cemetery Records show in the 1950's he had a limestone marker with " EHG ", aged 86, E.H. Guinn" cut into it. He is buried in the Roach Cemetery below Roaches Cove Church.

      He has many descendants all over Jackson County and the surrounding areas among whom a great number have been or are Ministers of the Gospel including Reverends Pat Guinn, Bob Guinn, Jesse Guinn, Chris Guinn and Roy Venable.
      Submitted by: Beverly Allen, 370 Co. Rd. # 353, Stevenson, AL 35772.
      Sources: Confederate Records; Jackson Co Census; Cemetery Records by Mrs. Annie Coleman Proctor and Family
      Knowledge.
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      From: Alabama: Her History Resources, War Record, and Public Men. From 1540 to 1872
      By W. Brewer Republished by Photo Lithography ( Willow Publishing Co. of Tuscaloosa, AL 1964 )
      Page # 667
      Fifty-Fifth Alabama (Infantry).
      This regiment was made up of Snodgrass's and Norwood's battalions, the former of six companies, the later of five.
      Snodgrass's battalion was organized at Corinth, in the spring of 1862, out of companies that had been in the service a year at that time, in the organizations of other States; and they had suffered severely at Shiloh; while the battalion itself
      had fought at the first seige of Vicksburg, and in the battles of Baton Rouge and Corinth. Norwood's Battalion was organized at Clinton, Mississippi, out of the five companies of Alabamians which had fought and been captured at Fort
      Donaldson while part of Quarles' " Tennessee " regiment. Organized at Port Hudson, February 1863, with 900 veterans, the Fifty-fifth fought at Baker's Creek in Buford's brigade, Loring's division, losing considerably. It shared in the fighting
      at Jackson and the subsequent operations in Mississippi. As part of Scott's brigade, the regiment was attached to the Army of Tennessee in the spring of 1864. It was much reduced by the constant fighting on the retreat from Dalton, but
      entered the battle of Peach-tree Creek ( July 20,1864 ) with 22 officers and 256 men, and lost in killed and wounded
      14 officers, and 155 men. After some further skirmishing, the Fifty-fifth participated in the winter campaign in Tennessee,
      and it's lists of casualties both at Franklin and Nashville were large. Proceeding to North Carolina the regiment, sadly
      reduced in strength surrendered at Greensboro, under Col. Snodgrass.
      ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________Confederate Military Record:
      Guinn, Elias Company ( G ) 55th.Reg. Ala. Vol.
      Private
      In Columbia, Tennessee lost one eye bursted out from Neuralgia and the other has gradually gone out until he can't
      tell white from black.
      Authority: Pension Application Jackson County, AL July 29th 1889.
      _______________________________________________________________________________

      From Paris Times Pioneers: The Gwin/Guinn Coat of Arms
      Origin of the name " GUINN"
      The name GUINN goes back to Wales to the Gwydir Castle. The names of Gwin, Gwinn, Gwyn, Gwynn, Gwynne, Guin, Guinn, Wynn, Wynne are all derivitates of the original name of GWYNEDD. The earliest known " GWIN" who came to America was Capt. Owin GWYNN, Esq., son os Sir John WYNN of the WYNN family of the GWYDIR CASTLE, Wales in 1611. His son Colonel Hugh GWYNNE was the first to
      permanently settle in the US.
      ( Owin returned to GWYDIR Castle when his father died to succeed to the baronetcy.) Source:
      " History of the Gwin Family, by Jesse Blaine Gwin, Fairfax, VA 1961.

      Order this book on 17 September 2004.
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      Guinn Message Board Query: 9/23/05 (dmsandin@higher-speed.net )
      Looking for info on John or Jackson Guinn, b. in AL about 1824. Married to Matilda Angeline Brown,
      b. in AL about 1826. Had a daughter named Melissa Jane Guinn born in 1849 in GA.
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      2/8/06: " Gone to Georgia" Jackson and Gwinnett Counties and their Neighbors in the Western Migration by William C. Stewart., page # 282-283

      Research to follow:

      GINN( Guinn, Gwin,Gynne, Gwynn)--The Ginn and Gwinn or Gwynn families do not appear to be the same, but such a bewildering variation of spellings in old documents exists that the families are often confused. Anyone attempting to trace one of these families should check all names with similar sounds.

      Jordan Ginn was listed in the 1805 Jackson County lottery. In 1820, Jesse and Isaac Ginn and others of the family using that spelling were found only in Elbert County. Jordan Jinn ( doubtless Ginn) was enumerated ( #212 ) in Gwinnett County, and there also was ( #25) Frederick McGinn, whose name has been rendered as Frederick M. Guinn.

      Jesse Ginn enlisted in 1775 and served as sargeant under Capt. Peter Perkins of Pittsylvania County, VA and in 1777 in Capt. John Dooly's Company of Horse in Georgia. His pension claim ( S 8645) states he was born in Buckingham County, VA in 1760. In any event the family was in Pittsylvania as early as 1767 and by 1790 Jesse was living in Fairfield District, SC; by 1827 in Tennessee, and by 1836 in Alabama. Jesse married twice, his second wife being Tabitha Brewer ( Born SC 1800, died St. Clair Co. 1880, married ( 2nd ) William Turner, May 27, 1849), and he is said by his family to have had nine children by each wife. He died in St. Clair Co ( 1840-1848). Mrs. CP McGuire, Records of St. Clair County, AL, pps 45 et seq., which gives considerable data, some of it somewhat confused. The Ginns intermarried with the Hammond, Stewart and Cowan families, among others.

      Richard Guinn, a Revolutionary Soldier, died in Effingham County, GA in 1785 and his wife, Elizabeth, died in Bullock Co in 1807. Their daughters Mary and Elizabeth married respectively Alexander and John, sons of John and Mary ( Shepherd) Lane ( Boddie, Historical Southern Families, vol 2, page 143). Pyerce and James Guinn were in Chandler's company in 1767, Pittsylvania Co., VA. By 1800, Alman Guinn is found in Stokes Co., NC, and his 1800 will named his wife Mary and Thornton. The will of William Hardin in Rockingham County, NC, mentioned his brother-in-law Thornton P. Guinn, and Almond Guinn was an executor. Peter Guin's 1798 will in Wilkes Co., NC named Mary, James, daughter Polly Baswell, and grandchildren Elizabeth and David Hill. There were Jane, Charles, Deborah Guin in Burke Co., NC around 1790. There was a John Guin and Morris Guinn in Edgefield District, SC in 1790. Morris Guinn is found ( with Thomas Guinn) in Rockbridge Co. VA c 1782 and 1816 in Monroe Co., AL, an area that reached into what is now Blount County and including or adjoining part of St. Clair Co. In 1817, Morris signed a petition to Congress, his name appearing adjacent to several Monroe County settlers from Pendleton District, SC, and Jackson Co, GA, including
      James Stuard, who perhaps was the man of that name from Jackson Co, GA whose widow was living in 1830 in Walker Co., AL, formed from land then in Monroe County ( Carter, Territorial Papers of the United States, v. 18, p. 96).

      In Pittsylvania County, VA in 1767 tithe list showed John Gwin in Peter Perkin's compay and George Holmes Gwin was in Wilson's company. Jesse Gwynn ( see Jesse Ginn, above ) served in Perkin's
      Company in the 1776 Cherokee Expedition and Richard Gwynn was a militia captain in 1775-1777. In adjoining Halifax County, John Gwinn married Jeane, daughter of John Wade in 1780 and in 1785, Bartlett and Alman ( Almond ) Gwinn(?Guinn) were taxed. Nathan and Hugh Gwin were living in Rockingham County, NC in 1790. In Surry County was Nathaniel; in Wilkes County, R'd (Richard)
      Gwynn, Joseph Gyn, Champ/n Gwin and Peter Gwin; John Gwin and Daniel Gwinn(Gunn?) were in Caswell County; and in Burke County were Champion Guir(Guin?). Many were in South Carolina, including John Gwinn 12400 in Greenville District.

      In 1820, Humphrey Gwin was in Walton Co., GA, and William Gwynn was in Burke County.
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      Message: 5/1/06: Kathy Edwards in response to my email to her.
      Since I was told that Elias's dad was John Guinn, could he have been the John Guinn, age 40-50
      in the 1830 Jackson Co., AL Census?

      M 1 40-50 F 1 20-30
      M 2 10-15 F 1 15-20
      M 2 5-10 F 1 10-15
      M 1 5-10
      M 2 Under 5

      This could be as William and Elias was born about 1827
      But that would leave two more boys and lots of girls??
      Must be a second wife as he is 40-50 and she is 20-30???
      Or there was a Daniel also...maybe John's brother
    • 7/26/06: New research topic. Email from Kathy
      Guinn Edwards ( cousin ):
      I have been thinking again. John Guinn from Trion, GA said that our line is John Talley Guinn,b. 4/28/1726 d. 1802, a brother was Claiborn( went to Kentucky ). John Guinn maiired Sally Caperton or Capelton. **Note: know it would be
      Caperton, with Jackson Co. references.

      I did find , I think in Orange Co., NC a John b.
      1726. Seems like the one who md. Sarah Varnell?
      I'd have to look again. Also I found a Claiborn Gwinn, "Claiboren" 49 M Farmer 500, b. VA with wife Sarah 50 b. VA, all kids b. IL. Some with the last name of Wood. Maybe John's brother Claiborn went to IL instead of KY or the boundaries changed. Or this may not even be a good clue. This one would have to be the 2nd John's brother. There was a Sally Guinn in Lincoln Co., TN 1820 who lived with no males. Recon, this could be the 2nd Johns wife? Also maybe our Champion was a generation in between and Mr. Guinn had forgotten. He was b. about 1767.

      Would look as such:
      John Talley Guinn, b. 1726
      Champion C. Guinn, b. 1767
      John Guinn, b. 1800
      Elias Henderson Guinn
      etc, etc.

  • Sources 
    1. [S65] The Heritage of Jackson County, Alabama.